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Thread: H.R. 624 aka CISPA (Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act)

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    Default H.R. 624 aka CISPA (Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act)

    I've been reading about this bill for a few days now and now stand 100% against it based on the (perceived and real) loop holes contained within all of the legal mumbo jumbo.

    In a nutshell this bill will allow "certified entities" to share their entire database with other "certified entities" and the Department of Homeland Security (DoH) without regard to any personal and/or confidential information contained within. This bill would override any privacy policy the "certified entities" have in place to protect their clientele/members. Entire databases would be "shared" between these "certified entities" and/or the DoH without any attempt to remove personally identifiable information such as names, email addresses, physical addresses, medical records, financial records, internet browsing, etc etc.

    Now I could be wrong on some of the points I brought up, I'm not a lawyer and I don't fully comprehend all of the double speak used in the bill, but I certainly hope that the Senate beats this bill down to the cellar and sets it on fire.

    Link to the bill and it's amendments. http://intelligence.house.gov/hr-624...and-amendments
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    I'm not a lawyer either, but I sure don't like the sounds of this. For example, our family uses an online care coordination tool that stores our will, end of life directives for our son and other very sensitive documents. The security on the site is similar to banking. So, can homeland security now access private banking records too? Balancing security and privacy is a very tricky business, but we HAVE to protect our privacy as well as our security!!!!
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    ((((((Mike, Donna, & All))))))

    Isn't it sad that we need to be lawyers or political scientists or ... whatever ... to understand laws, which control our lives?

    The Senate knocked this bill down the last time it made the rounds, pre-amendments. From the little, which I've read about CISPA, these amendments do nothing to protect our privacy.

    Pre-amendments, President Obama vowed to veto HR 624/CISPA if it passed through Congress.

    I'm not a lawyer either, but it wouldn't surprise me if CISPA was merely an attempt to legalize what they are already doing.

    If they want to know everything about you, they will.

    Color me cynical.



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    The way I understand it your online care coordinating site would have to become a "certified entity", otherwise the government would need a search warrant I don't remember reading anywhere in the bill how a company becomes a "certified entity". I do understand that the company has to have a security clearance although the level of security is not mentioned.

    I agree with Rose, the government probably already does this and this is just a move to cover their butts.
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    (((((HUGS)))))

    CISPA ~ Facebook ~ Employers ~

    Not good.

    http://www.webpronews.com/cispa-add-...killed-2013-04

    Another reason that I'm glad I'm not on Facebook.

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    I hear ya Rose. I always had a bad vibe with the social media outlets. For some reason I never had bad vibes about forums as a whole, there are some that I won't trust ever, and there are others that lost their way and are now on my block list

    The scary thing is, forums aren't exempt or protected from this action either
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    hey all !

    i read this today: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418386,00.asp

    cispa will not be heard by the senate and they're going to craft a bill of their own. so right now, things are at a standstill.

    i signed the white house petition against cispa and i want to thank all the others who did.

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    ((((((Jeannie))))))

    I just came by here to post that news! Thank you!

    I wonder what the Senate bill will look like.

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    That's good news indeed :)
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    Outragous glad it got shot down. One more reason for the bill of rights.
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